Gladiator

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Released in 2000. I picked up a DVD of this with my brand new PS2 and loved it. Have you seen it? Easily Russell Crowe's best performance. Great battles, one on one staged fights and a story of good vs evil and revenge all wrapped up in glorious ancient Rome.

 

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Classic Greek Tragedy. Fantastically executed battle scenes. Great performance by Russel Crowe.

"Are you not entertained?" :love:
 
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I wasn't too into gladiator, but then again, I remember never full on watching the movie. I've only ever watched bits and pieces. Maybe It's time I actually watch it all the way through. :D
 

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I got the Gladiator collectors edition on Blu Ray. It has an extended version on the disc which I felt was better then the theatrical version.
 

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I still have a 8 GB rip with me of the extended version. I often revisit in parts at least.
 

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Gladiator (2000 A.D.)

This film is beautiful in it's visuals and story. Let's talk visuals first...I just enjoyed the color palette of this film, it really added an extra element for me as I enjoyed the moments where my eyes scanned the scenes and took all the details in...sure they did a poor job during some of the shoot as it was jarring to spot the guy in jeans standing next to a film camera during the "Aren't you entertained" scene, yes, I know, if you blink you'll miss the mistakes but it doesn't make them go away. Another amazing element was the sound design and music score, especially during the heavy moments, the score during those moments made me glad I was peeling onions at the same time. I really enjoyed the pace of this film, it never halts to a crawl and moves along steadily towards its resolution. The fights were choreographed expertly and while we do get some shaky-cam, most of the fights are clear and we can follow what was going on. The costumes were also amazing and I learned through the director/actor commentary that Joaquin Phoenix suddenly felt he wasn't right for the role of Commodus as he didn't feel he was conveying the role properly and was going to leave the project and one of the things he disliked was his wardrobe as it didn't make him feel like Commodus, so they redesigned all his wardrobe and with his input produced what we see in the film and glad they convinced him to stay because he delivers an amazing performance. Sure he was the most hated villain in the story but I could not help but empathize with him as he reminded me of those kids I grew up with who had these ignorant fathers who forced them into sports when they had zero athletic ability and then were expected to excel at the sport and when they don't, resentment sets in for everyone. Many an asshole is born because parents forced them into activities they didn't want to take part in. I felt his performance tip-toed that fine line between maniac and neglected child. In general, the acting was very good by everyone including the extras, and really went a long way in selling the illusion that we were in the Roman Empire.

I felt the film had great pacing...as any time the story slowed down, it wasn't for very long and we went right back into the thick of things. I appreciated the filmmaker keeping everything easy to follow, unlike in that film "Dune" which I felt lacked cohesion and some needed exposition. So many people love this film and rightfully so, that I don't think I can add anything more about the technical aspects without getting into my negatives. So let's first talk about the moments I loved the most...you would think it was the fighting and the gore but I actually found that whole notion silly and am glad I didn't live in that time period, I cannot imagine dying solely for the entertainment of some asshole eating grapes in a stadium.

The parts of the film that really hit me hard were the scenes with the little figurines of his family...I had forgotten about that element in the film and those little props really messed me up and was glad I had just gotten sawdust in my eyes at that same time. lmao. I mean, here is this brave warrior and his most prized possessions were those figurines. When Maximus (Russell Crowe) first reveals them to us, I felt so sad for dude, I mean, it wasn't like he could pick up a phone and hear her voice or see a photo. Of course my ultimate favorite scene was when Juba (Djimon Hounsou) buries the figurines in the ground...I felt it was just the perfect touch, I mean, the hope being that the family reunited is nice...but sadder if you believe it is not possible or don't buy into the heaven concept, how sad is it to think that was it...he never saw his family alive ever again...and all for what----someone else's kingdom? I mean, even if Marcus Aureluis (Richard Harris) hadn't been betrayed, I felt Maximus would still have rejected the offer and would have went home, he wasn't just eager to get home because of family, he loved the land he lived on, and I like that he mentions the harvests and crops he is able to grow on his land. This added credibility to why he wouldn't have just accepted Marcus' offer and just moved his family to live in the palace. He wanted to go back home, plain and simple. I truly enjoyed all the themes presented in this story, from revenge to family love nd betrayal. Did i mention how perfect the ending to this film is??? I mean, the entire scene from start to the very last line Juba says was just so powerful and moving. We all had lost Maximus, but we go on, we live on, whether we like it or not. Just like in real life when we lose a friend or family member, that was deep for a film to leave me reflecting on something like that.

How good was the "Busy Little Bees" scene when Commodus confronts Lucilla (Connie Nielsen) through her son Lucius (Spencer Treat Clark) as he tells him about Emperor Claudius being betrayed by family...."the little bee told him everything...." ! Just a Fantastic moment!!!! Had it not been for those figurines, that would have been my fave scene in the film.

Being that there are so many reviews out there already that focus on the positives and I'd just be repeating those same sentiments so let's move on to some of my personal negatives. The biggest thing that bothered me was just how anonymous Maximus seemed to be when he arrived in Rome to fight in the colosseum. Here is this legendary general, I mean, the guy was so close and beloved by the Emperor that the Emperor wanted Maximus to inherit the leadership role over his own son! This meant that Maximus must have been well known throughout and yes there wasn't media per say, but there was art and someone would have passed around an image of Rome's most successful war general. These were wars he led to conquer land for the empire...Maximus was a huge deal but no one knew him in Spain, which by then was property of Rome, or no one recognized him in the Roman province he is taken to after he is sold to Antonius Proximo (Oliver Reed) and worse, no one recognized him back in any of the other provinces ? Even once in Rome, no one recognized him during training or mingling with the gladiator slaves and servants? And it bothered me even more once Rome knew who he was and didn't riot or question what they were told about what had happened to him. Were they told he had been killed because he was a traitor or were they told he just left the kingdom, abandoned the Empire. I just felt it was just so matter-of-fact and I get it it was necessary to tell the specifics of the story and I know that Maximus if finally recognized by Cisero (Tommy Flannagan) and finally gets a plan to break him out, but what about anyone else recognizing the most decorated general in the Roman army? I think Commodus should have stood up and told the people, "Don't cheer for this traitor. He deserted YOU!!" but the crowd still sides with Maximus eventually....that would have fixed that for me. Now it is possible that I missed the time lapse and they mention how many years had gone by but it certainly felt it was under 3-5 years and people would have still remembered the great general especially in that province before he heads to Rome and I could buy his anonymity there since he clearly states that he had never been to Rome, but still, it's not like he went to Africa instead of Rome. The other thing that bothered me was that first battle. I get that the barbarians might have not had the same organization and would stand there and shout while the Roman army prepared for battle. But it was hilarious to see the barbarians still yelling while arrows and balls of fire are landing on them, I was like, "no wonder these dudes won these wars". My only other issue with the film is some of the mistakes that were missed in the post-production. I mean, there were some real careless moments and nothing took me out of that world more than seeing that guy in jeans in the colosseum. I know no one is perfect and all of that and cant kill Ridley for missing those mistakes and the film still won Best Picture so it didn't hurt the film's popularity but I can't unsee the mistakes.

Final Verdict...5/5...name a better Gladiator movie, I'll wait. Overall, Gladiator is an amazing experience and besides those moments that took me out of the immersion, I still really enjoyed the beauty of the imagery and subtlety in the acting, like when we first see Maximus in the forest and he spots that little bird and when he sees that colorful bird surrounded by all that darkness and charred remains of the forest, he smiles when he sees the bird fly away, the way he wishes he could, but we don't know that at the start so we just dismiss the moment. I think everyone involved should be proud of what they produced, even the extras, they were strong in all the scenes. I was not bothered by historical inaccuracies and perhaps that's due to my lack of knowledge of the time period but either way, it wasn't based on a true story and just based on real people that did exist back then. I found it hilariously ironic that the same kid that prevented Maximus from killing Commodus----- is the one responsible for Commodus getting wind of the plan being made to break Maximus out. Hence thwarting it before it even began. Lesson learned: do not talk about taking down the emperor if you are around children, cause them little bastard crumb snatchers will open their mouths and ruin it for you.
 

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Before spartacus..this way my number 1 in this genre....but than again no spartacus without gladiator imo!
 

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Not gunna lie one of the scenes I always remember is the guy being cut in half by a wheel. It was pretty nuts seeing that as a kid.
 
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My name is Maximus Decimus Meridius, commander of the Armies of the North, General of the Felix Legions and loyal servant to the true emperor, Marcus Aurelius. Father to a murdered son. Husband to a murdered wife. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next.

One of the best ever dialogues in Hollywood!
 

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Before spartacus..this way my number 1 in this genre....but than again no spartacus without gladiator imo!

This reminded me of the 1960 Kubrick Movie "Spartacus" starring Kirk Douglas, Jean Simmons & Lawrence Olivier! It was a great movie!
 

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I found it hilariously ironic that the same kid that prevented Maximus from killing Commodus----- is the one responsible for Commodus getting wind of the plan being made to break Maximus out. Hence thwarting it before it even began. Lesson learned: do not talk about taking down the emperor if you are around children, cause them little bastard crumb snatchers will open their mouths and ruin it for you.

There are some fans that think Lucius is Maximus's illegitimate love child because he and Lucilla were past lovers.There is an awkwardness between him and Lucilla. However it is implied that they were former lovers before either of them got married. The film doesn't cover any of their prior relationship. There's just that "There's something there but we don't know what it is" moment that they seem to keep having. What do you think?
 
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There are some fans that think Lucius is Maximus's illegitimate love child because he and Lucilla were past lovers.There is an awkwardness between him and Lucilla. However it is implied that they were former lovers before either of them got married. The film doesn't cover any of their prior relationship. There's just that "There's something there but we don't know what it is" moment that they seem to keep having. What do you think?
Oh I totally got the same vibe from both of them that they had an intimate past. And the only reason I think people even entertain that idea is that people love conflict and drama and that particular "scandal" kind of would take away from the great family man, Maximus is portrayed as...an honorable man who cheated on his wife perhaps, I mean, he was on the road risking life and limb. Think about it....you are miles away from home, religion isnt telling you what to do, you risk your life in battle, and you gonna tell me these warriors would not have cheated given all those factors? Anyways I digress.
Personally, I thought it was funny that the entire thing falls apart for Maximus because of that kid. And if he was the illegitimate child of Maximus, that is even more f'ed up since he basically got his father killed.
 
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Think about it....you are miles away from home, religion isnt telling you what to do, you risk your life in battle, and you gonna tell me these warriors would not have cheated given all those factors? Anyways I digress.

Yeah. Maximus might have been seen as a hero by his former comrades and thought of as honorable by Marcus. But the one thing being dutiful and honorable to your country is that it also brings intense strain on relationships and marriages. Women masturbate and cheat on their husbands who are serving their country right here in the US all of the time. In fact, men and women serving in the military have the highest divorce rate in the US more than people who aren't serving. So in Maximus's case, I wouldn't be surprised if he slept with slaves and other women on his tours. I imagine marriage was very different back than, especially if they worshiped pagan gods.

About 21,290 of 689,060 married troops divorced over the course of fiscal 2017, according to data released Tuesday by the Pentagon to Military.com. In 2016, the rate was slightly higher, with about 22,500 divorces out of 707,230 marriages, according to historic data compiled by Military.com.

source: https://www.military.com/daily-news/2018/03/21/troop-divorce-rate-unchanged-marriage-rate-continues-fall.html#:~:text=About 21,290 of 689,060 married,data compiled by Military.com.
 
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This reminded me of the 1960 Kubrick Movie "Spartacus" starring Kirk Douglas, Jean Simmons & Lawrence Olivier! It was a great movie!
Oh that is such a fascinating historic story, I gotta add that movie to the list!